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The Margin is a podcast from MGI Research that explores the evolving world of business monetization. Hosted by MGI Managing Directors Andrew Dailey and Igor Stenmark, the show features candid conversations with founders, CEOs, product leaders, and industry experts at the forefront of pricing, billing, and revenue operations. Each episode dives deep into the strategies, technologies, and trends shaping how companies generate, capture, and grow revenue—from subscription and usage-based models to AI-driven monetization. Whether you’re in finance, product, or IT, The Margin offers practical insights to help you navigate complexity and drive growth in the digital economy.

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The Shift Beyond Subscriptions: Adam Howatson on Unlocking Complex Consumption and Mediation Architecture

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, sits down with Adam Howatson, CEO of LogiSense, to analyze the structural evolution from flat-fee subscription models to sophisticated usage-based pricing. Driven by market wide subscription fatigue and macroeconomic pressure, B2B and B2C vendors are increasingly forced to align realized Read More...

Grant Peterson on Generative AI, CLM, and the Future of Contracting

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, Managing Director Igor Stenmark sits down with Grant Peterson, Chief Product Officer at Conga, to dissect the profound operational disruption and intense market hype surrounding Generative AI in Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM). Drawing on his extensive product engineering background, including his tenure as the driving force behind DocuSign’s Read More...

De-Risking Hypergrowth: Jane Koltsova on Finance Operations and Order-to-Cash Transformation

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, analyzes the friction points of back-office infrastructure with Jane Koltsova, Senior Director of Finance Operations and Order-to-Cash (O2C) Transformation at Medidata Solutions. Drawing from her tenure managing revenue operations through complex scaling cycles at Salesforce and PagerDuty, Koltsova discusses the strategic Read More...

Is AI Going to Replace Your Billing?

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Directors Andrew Dailey and Igor Stenmark dismantle the rampant hyperbole and commercial positioning surrounding Artificial Intelligence within enterprise billing and financial systems. As technology vendors aggressively market “AI-native” billing solutions, enterprise buyers face significant uncertainty regarding true operational readiness, total cost of ownership (TCO), and Read More...

Consumption Models & RevRec Architecture with Jagan Reddy

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Andrew Dailey sits down with Jagan Reddy, Founder and CEO of RightRev, to analyze the acute structural friction placed on corporate accounting teams by the rapid rise of consumption-based monetization. While high-volume consumption mechanics power the top-line valuations of market leaders like Snowflake and Read More...

B2B Margin Optimization and Price Discovery: Eric Carrasquilla on AI, Domain Verticalization, and EBITDA Expansion

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Andrew Dailey sits down with Eric Carrasquilla, CEO of Vendavo, to dissect the critical operational inefficiencies governing B2B price optimization and commercial execution. While global enterprises routinely invest millions in product R&D and market launch infrastructure, the actual mechanism of setting and defending price Read More...

Redefining Revenue: Youssef Yaghmour on the Six Pillars of Intelligent Monetization

In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Igor Stenmark sits down with Youssef Yaghmour, CEO and Founder of BluLogix, to explore the evolving challenges of monetization for multi-channel enterprises. They discuss the limitations of ERP systems, the role of AI in revenue prediction, and BluLogix’s six pillars of intelligent revenue management. From Read More...

Tien Tzuo on Total Monetization: The Next Evolution Beyond Subscriptions

Episode Overview In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Andrew Dailey sits down with Tien Tzuo, CEO and founder of Zuora and the originator of the “subscription economy,” to examine why subscription models alone no longer adequately describe how modern businesses create and capture value. As AI, usage-based services, and increasingly fragmented customer Read More...

Transforming Professional Services: Dan Brown on Pragmatic AI

In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Directors Andrew Dailey and Igor Stenmark speak with Dan Brown, Chief Product Officer at Celonis, about the true impact of generative AI on professional services. Is it an existential threat, or a powerful accelerant? Drawing on experience at Microsoft and leading PSA vendors, Dan unpacks where Read More...

The Future Is Metered: Puneet Gupta on How to Succeed with Usage-Based Models

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, speaks with Puneet Gupta, CEO and Founder of Amberflo, and a key architect behind Amazon Web Services’ early consumption billing systems. They explore what it takes to succeed with usage-based pricing, from cultural alignment and metering infrastructure to flexible billing models and Read More...

The Contract Intelligence Gap: Praful Saklani on Unlocking Revenue Hidden in Contracts

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, sits down with Praful Saklani, CEO and Founder of Pramata, to unpack the untapped value hidden in enterprise contracts. Despite major investments in CLM systems, most companies still can’t answer basic questions about their agreements. Saklani explains why legacy tools fall short, how Read More...

Pricing in Motion: Dr. Michael Wu on AI, Data, and Demand

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey, Managing Director at MGI Research, speaks with Dr. Michael Wu, Chief AI Strategist at PROS, about what other industries can learn from decades of airline experience in dynamic pricing and revenue optimization. Dr. Wu shares insights on building trust in AI, leveraging data to drive price precision, and Read More...

Monetization at Scale: John Stame on Product-Led Growth and Direct Sales

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey speaks with John Stame, veteran enterprise architect and business systems leader with over 35 years of experience at Atlassian, Microsoft, and Chevron. John shares hard-won lessons from helping Atlassian scale from $100M to several billion in revenue while evolving from a pure product-led growth (PLG) model to a Read More...

Speed Wins: Noel Goggin on AI and the SaaS Reset

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey speaks with Conga CEO Noel Goggin about how AI is reshaping enterprise software and why speed is becoming the ultimate competitive advantage. Drawing on his experience leading Conga and navigating multiple technology transitions, Noel explains why seat-based SaaS models are under pressure, how companies can rapidly test new Read More...

Pricing in Motion: Mark Walker on AI and Revenue Reinvention

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey speaks with Mark Walker, CEO of Nue, about how AI is reshaping revenue infrastructure, pricing strategy, and the future of SaaS. Mark explains why traditional software moats are eroding, why distribution and data are becoming the new sources of defensibility, and how AI-native companies are forcing every Read More...

Trust but Verify: Todd McElhatton on AI, Finance, and Systems of Record

In this episode of The Margin, Andrew Dailey speaks with Todd McElhatton, Chief Financial and Operating Officer at Zuora, about how AI is reshaping software business models, finance operations, and the economics of SaaS. Todd explains why AI-driven usage models are putting pressure on traditional seat-based pricing, why “systems of record” require precision rather than probabilistic Read More...

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